Comparison

Arcalotl vs Upgrade.chat

Upgrade.chat processes payments. Arcalotl processes payments, and then fights to keep that revenue.

Both handle Discord subscriptions and role management. Only Arcalotl recovers failed payments, intercepts cancellations, and optimizes terms automatically.

What's different

Upgrade.chat is one of the most established Discord payment bots. It supports Stripe, PayPal, and multiple payment methods, handles role assignments, and offers both subscriptions and one-time purchases. It gets the basics right.

What it doesn't do is protect your revenue after the initial sale. When a member's card expires, Upgrade.chat removes their role. No DM, no retry prompt, no card update link. When a member cancels, it processes the cancellation immediately. No reason collection, no counter-offer, no save attempt. Every lost subscriber is a permanent loss.

Arcalotl adds the retention layer that Upgrade.chat is missing. Automated dunning sequences that DM members with payment update links. Cancel intercepts that present dynamic offers based on why they're leaving. Term optimization that upgrades engaged monthly subscribers to annual. These features typically recover 15-30% of revenue that would otherwise be lost.

Feature comparison

FeatureArcalotlUpgrade.chat
Discord role management
Yes
Yes
Stripe payments
Yes
Yes
PayPal payments
No
Yes
Subscriptions
Yes
Yes
One-time purchases
Coming soon for Arcalotl
No
Yes
Native slash commands
Yes
Partial
Direct payouts (Stripe Connect)
Yes
Partial
Failed payment recovery (dunning)
Multi-step DM sequences with card update flows
Yes
No
Cancellation save offers
Dynamic offers based on cancel reason and tenure
Yes
No
Term optimization (annual upsell)
Yes
No
Revenue analytics & MRR tracking
Yes
Partial
Multi-platform (Discord + Stoat)
Yes
No
No monthly fee
Upgrade.chat has a free tier but with higher transaction fees
Yes
Partial

Pricing comparison

Arcalotl
$0/mo. 2% transaction fee + 5% fee on recovered revenue only. No minimums.
Upgrade.chat
Free tier with ~5% transaction fees. Paid tiers reduce fees to ~2-3%. Supports both PayPal and Stripe.

Where Arcalotl goes further

Revenue recovery that Upgrade.chat doesn't offer

When a payment fails, Arcalotl sends a multi-step DM sequence with a one-click card update link. If DMs are closed, it creates a temporary channel. Upgrade.chat simply removes the role. The member may not even know what happened.

Cancel saves that turn losses into retention

Upgrade.chat processes cancellations immediately. Arcalotl collects the cancellation reason and presents a tailored offer: a discount, a pause, or a downgrade. Servers using cancel saves typically retain 30-40% of members who attempt to cancel.

Stripe Connect with direct payouts

With Arcalotl's Stripe Connect Direct Charges model, money goes directly to your Stripe account. You own the customer relationship and all payment data.

Multi-platform from day one

Arcalotl works on Discord and Stoat today, with RootApp coming soon. Upgrade.chat is Discord-only. If your community spans multiple platforms, Arcalotl manages subscriptions across all of them from one dashboard.

Frequently asked questions

Can I accept PayPal with Arcalotl?

Not currently. Arcalotl uses Stripe exclusively for payment processing. If PayPal is critical for your community, Upgrade.chat has an advantage here. Most Discord communities find Stripe sufficient as it supports all major card types, Apple Pay, and Google Pay.

Does Arcalotl support one-time purchases?

One-time purchases with permanent role grants are on the roadmap. Currently, Arcalotl focuses on recurring subscriptions. Upgrade.chat supports one-time purchases today.

Can I use both Arcalotl and Upgrade.chat?

Yes, they run as separate bots. You could use Upgrade.chat for one-time purchases and PayPal, and Arcalotl for subscriptions with revenue recovery. They won't conflict.

Is the dunning really worth the 5% recovery fee?

The 5% fee only applies to revenue that would otherwise be lost entirely. If Arcalotl recovers $100 that a failed payment would have cost you, you pay $5 and keep $95. Without dunning, you keep $0.

Same payment processing. Revenue recovery on top.

Zero monthly fees. Revenue recovery from day one.

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